Nice interview to Joi Ito by a Macedonian newspaper on the Creative Commons License, the use of CC in a blog, content and the use by Professionals vs Amateurs, the concepts of Remix and Original, and more. To be read.
One question puzzles me:
You said that, now days, more and more people choose happiness over pleasure. How this reflects on Internet?
Joi’s answers puts Internet and money side by side. Nevertheless, the core of his answer is
that the Internet enables a new kind of sharing and collaboration that allows people who pursue happiness to produce things together.
If common and collaborative production is shared, is always shared the financial feedback of this production? The economic returns? In short, the returns of production investments of all kinds — work, time, energy, hopes and so on — are also shared?
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"If common and collaborative production is shared, is always shared the financial feedback of this production? The economic returns? In short, the returns of production investments of all kinds — work, time, energy, hopes and so on — are also shared?"
good point…
Scritto da .:., 4 anni, 11 mesi fa
I think it depends… ;-)
This is a good point. I think that in many cases, there are corporations or individuals that use the money to run the infrastructure. In some cases they are not-for-profit and in some cases they are for-profit. In some cases the participants are even shareholders and in other cases the are "stakeholders" of a non-profit or public project. It's interesting, but I don't think that the economic return, either directly or indirectly are necessarily linked to people's willingness to participate in collaboration.
A few examples. My blog software company, Six Apart, is a for profit company that provides blogging services thru Live Journal and Vox. People feel like they are getting a service for free although it is their work that is generating the traffic that generates the ad revenue.
I am on the board of the Mozilla Foundation. There, we benefit from the open source. The money pays salaries for a handful of staff and the rest gets distributed to socially beneficial projects through a non-profit organization process.
I think one key is that it is all disclosed and trust is not broken. It's also interesting to note that changes are very difficult. For instance, there is a huge resistance on Wikipedia to any idea of ads. However, I think that if they had ads from the beginning, it might have been OK. Especially if the money went to buying servers, etc.
Anyway, great point and something to consider and try to understand better.
Scritto da Joi Ito, 4 anni, 11 mesi fa
Boh, the link of photo don't work.
Scritto da donMo, 4 anni, 11 mesi fa
hermans, you attorneys should know better..:)
Scritto da boh, 4 anni, 11 mesi fa
Thank you Joi for answering me.:)
Point is: needless to say that is much better to be or to feel part of a mission, a project, a common work, to feel good about it. Moreover, it makes one feel better to know that what you are doing is useful to others, and not only to yourself.
A great economists such as J. K Galbraith already told me this some 12-13 years ago: it's the idea of common victory, of sharing results.
Nevertheless, do not tell me that Six Apart reinvests only in servers, services and to ameliorate the working environment. Like Yahoo!, you are a company. Also Mozilla is a program open source, yes, but not a NGO devoted to children of Nepal!
A handful of people lives out of this? What life standard they have?
And how much is useful in the USA to donate money not to pay taxes and to have a better image?
There are ways to make money also from Google ads, and Google makes more money than we do from ads. We are paying for the free program they give us.
I am grateful for that, but I know that they make a lot of money also out of this. It's enough to see what wonderful office have in London Victoria..
I mean: it's cheating, in a way, to give people the idea that they are sharing also the final return, and it's manipulative to tell young people that this final point (= money) is in a way common, as much as investments are.
Six apart is yours and in the end you will make money: of course, if I work for you I prefer doing it in a better environment, working together instead of working against one another and so on. I prefer being loyal and be, so to say, in peace with others and with myself, no doubt.
At the end of the day, you are the owner and I work for you.
Working "better" is also a way to compel people to produce more and better for others. I want to make sure the everybody knows that.
Scritto da boh, 4 anni, 11 mesi fa
Thanks donMo, I fixed it.:)
Scritto da boh, 4 anni, 11 mesi fa
uora mi miettu a parrari ipaliarmitanu e biriemu si sugnu 'ntisu? cosi i niesciri fuoddi!!!
Scritto da permettetemi, 4 anni, 11 mesi fa
Sono quello di Umbriablog.blogspot Ho finito di scrivere pochi istanti fa proprio un articolo sulle cause di questi problemi di tasse a Perugia, vai su Perugiablog.blogspot.com e dai un'okkiata all'articolo sul minimetrò. Il dramma che non c'è un'alternativa alla giunta comunale di perugia, l'unica è farli tornare in sè. A novembre hanno indetto un referendum sugli stipendi degli impiegati regionali pigliano 15.000 euro al mese fisso senza fare un caz.. roba da matti: qui i comunisti sono al potere da 60 anni ti rendi conto? Ci vorrebbe un Berlusca sul serio, renditi conto come siamo messi…
Scritto da BlogmasterPG, 4 anni, 11 mesi fa
eheh permettetemi:)
hai ragione, ma concorderai con me che il palermitano, lingua bellissima peraltro, non è così universale come l'inglese.
E poi tu un po' lo dovresti sapere se usi il cpmputer, è tutto in inglese! In ogni caso usa Altavista per tradurre:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/
metti il testo e scegli le lingue. Lo fa in un secondo! Certo che il palermitano fra le lingue non c'è:)
Che si fa lì a Paris? Ah, Paris Paris…
Scritto da boh, 4 anni, 10 mesi fa
BlogmasterPG: si sapeva benissimo che gli impiegati regionali di buon livello prendevano un sacco di soldi. Certo, quei soldi mi sembrano un po' tantini..
Vorrei sapere quanto prende il Presidente della regione. E le auto blu dove le metti? E i pranzi le cene e gli alberghi gratis?
Anni fa una delegazione capeggiata da una donna che ora è deputato (che consocevo) è andata in California, ha speso quanto il budget annuale di una nazione povera: lei è comunista (era PCI).
Cmq, qui in Lombardia è esattamente la stessa cosa. Leggi il commento n. 13 a questo post: http://orientalia4all.net/post/che-ce-dietro-a-montezemolo-de-bortoli-e-draghi-ii-parte#show_comments
E la Provincia era Forza Italia…
Scritto da boh, 4 anni, 10 mesi fa
Ciao Boh, il mio commento non c'entra nulla. Cercavo delle cose sui disordini vari in Nepal e la ribellione Maoista e mi sono imbattuta nel tuo blog. vorrei avere delle notizie su di te, quando hai tempo, perchè mi piace molto il tuo modo di pensare e di scrivere. Ti ho anche ascoltato in Podcast. Io sono un'illustratrice/viaggiatrice. Puoi scrivermi al mio blog dove troverai la mia mail. Attendo tue news Grazie Chiara
Scritto da chiara Dattola, 4 anni, 10 mesi fa
ciao! carino il tuo blog:) ma perché dovrei scriverti? Voglio dire, mi devi dire qualcosa?
Scritto da boh, 4 anni, 10 mesi fa
perhaps … because in this blog there are beautiful things … and so … do you give to others? … beauty will save the world? … perhaps …
.:.
Scritto da hermansji, 4 anni, 10 mesi fa
hermansji, beauty will save the world? Love will save the world!:)
Scritto da boh, 4 anni, 10 mesi fa
:) … we trust in love …
Scritto da hermansji, 4 anni, 10 mesi fa
yes we do!
Scritto da boh, 4 anni, 10 mesi fa